Movable Type
May 16, 2004
So much have been written about the release of Movable Type 3.0, and the new licensing model, I thought I'd just chime in and offer my point of view, by request, actually.
First of all, I'm really disappointed in a lot of people. Those people being the cheap bastards that won't pay for Movable Type, regardless of cost and despite the fact that it's great, extensible, customizable software, and despite that they use it every single day.
Those kinds of cheap bastards should, however, not be confused with the kind that prefers Free Software (as in free speech, not free beer), which is a perfectly legitimate, non-greedy stance.
A lot of people felt that their copy of Movable Type 2.x somehow, overnight, became useless crap that neeeded to be replaced when MT 3.0 was released. Jason Kottke knows better:
My copy of MT (v2.63, for which I donated $45) isn't any less flexible or powerful than it was yesterday. It works just fine for my current needs, it will continue to work well into the foreseeable future, and I remain a satified customer of Six Apart. Jason Kottke
Also, Dave Winer, shockingly, has a few intelligent words to say as well:
If you use their software, you owe them some money. If you don't like the price, don't use it. Amazingly they're not asking for money if you use the new software in a limited form, or continue to use the old software. Users who can't get behind that are people we don't need to work with. Everything costs money. When you drive to the gas station, try whining at the attendant, and see how much gas you get. Do it enough and they'll call the cops. Dave Winer
Nick Bradbury, maker of HomeSite, knows what it's like, and has a suggestion for the greedy types:
Having been where the Six Apart crew are now, can I make a suggestion to those who are flaming them? Even if you live in some bizarro universe that equates earning a living with belonging to a satanic cult, if you're really not willing to pay for MovableType, at least have the courtesy to thank them for the free ride up to this point. Nick Bradbury
Six Apart aren't greedy; charging money for products and services is what makes the economy go around, they too have bills to pay. Besides that, Six Apart also has a lot of trust in their users. A fantastic amount of trust, actually. The author and weblog restrictions, depending on what license you choose, are in fact not enforced. That means that you can download the totally free version and use it for a hundred weblogs at a hundred websites, or you can use it on as many as you've paid for. That's up to you.
Six Apart trusts you to do the right thing. How many other companies can you say that about? The industry standard is to put in a ridiculous amount of safeguards against potential abuse of products, to the point where it actually hurts the consumer more than it stops the pirates. It's become a rather common thing now that people have to download a no-cd crack in order to be able to play their legitimate copy of a game, due to various copy protection methods. Because most software companies don't trust their customers, they really really distrust them, even.
The folks who make Movable Type have always treated their users with respect. Let's return the favor and give them a chance to process all the feedback that's crammed into their inboxes right now before raising our fists to the sky. Derek Powazek
Overall, beside the cheap bastards, MT 3.0 has been met with a bit of disappointment, and, in my opinion, John Gruber nails the reasons for that perfectly:
Working on the engine first, and then adding features later, is a perfectly acceptable strategy for Six Apart. But they shouldn't have attempted to sell upgrades until they were ready to ship a feature release.
You can certainly argue that the world would be a better place -- or at least filled with better software -- if people were willing to pay for non-feature release software. But they're not. John Gruber
I haven't gotten Movable Type 3.0 yet, and I'm probably going to wait a bit until I do, to read more about the reactions to it, etc and so forth. Right now, my archives are rebuilt rather quickly, because the website is on a semi-dedicated server (not really dedicated, but almost). Since I'm considering moving to DreamHost, or perhaps some other hosting provider, rebuild times will become an issue for me when I do.
Unless the rebuild times has been significantly improved with MT 3.0, I'm probably going to have to switch to some other software, WordPress most likely (TextPattern is also an alternative, most other software are not). If I do switch to some software other than Movable Type, however, that software will absolutely need some kind of comment spam prevention system, such as MT-Blacklist. Preferably, it should also support TypeKey enabled comments.
Like Jason Kottke, I remain a satisfied paying customer of Six Apart.
Comments
Six Apart clarifies the issues. Next time, a deep breath might help...
Trackback from MT-Blacklist/Comment Spam Clearinghouse at 22:33, 16 May, 2004 #
"[...] you can download the totally free version and use it for a hundred weblogs at a hundred websites, or you can use it on as many as you've paid for. That's up to you."
I think you're wrong because licenses are controlled via TypeKey authenticated token based system.
Comment by angelday at 23:30, 16 May, 2004 #
I am in the process the switch to WordPress, but I did it before 6A posted the now famous/infamous entry on Mena's Corner. I was tired of comment posting taking a long (looooong) time and rebuilds that almost killed my VS. WP is behaving real nicely now.
I on the paying and Open Source issue, I am like Mark. GPL all the way!
Comment by David Collantes at 03:16, 17 May, 2004 #
I switched to ExpressEngine by the makers of pMachine a while ago. I just wanted a PHP/MySQL solution that was fully fleshed out. Nothing against MT. My biggest issue with the entire argument was just how cruel people are. Its one thing to blash Microsoft of SCO because they are relatively large corporations, and while Bill may take personal offense, its unlikely that he will ever even read the casual and callous comments of most people (including myself on occassion).
But Six Apart, though growing, is still very much Ben and Mena Trott, and the spewing hatred is very much like 100s of rabidly vicious children kicking the class geek as she/he tries to pick up their glasses. It was just painful and horribly cruel to watch. I don't fully agree with new pricing structure (I think both the personal and commercial licenses should have an unlimited option), but otherwise I'm not against it.
Obviously MT is in a space where, to keep providing the features and functions and versatality that people demand, that they do need dedicated programmers, and a much stronger commitment to the project. These things rarely take place without money.
While, I believe some of the people honestly DO feel that they would pay if the price were $50-$75 for unlimited, I can't help have the belief tarnished by the fact that so many had mentioned that they had yet to donate their $20 or more for any past or current versions of MT being used by them.
I was listening to an interview with Mena and Ben, that was done just recently, and I swear when the interviewer hit on the issue of feedback, it sounded like she was struggling not to cry. It was obvious that she wanted to be encouraging about the positive posts, but the negative posts just got to her.
I wish temperance was a stronger characteristic of the blogging community, but...
Comment by allgood2 at 06:12, 17 May, 2004 #
hubbub
n : loud confused noise from many sources [syn: uproar, brouhaha]
Comment by Johan Svensson at 10:30, 17 May, 2004 #
I'm mostly bothered about the fact that they said that 3.0 was going to be a free update and that they didn't say anything about the licensing fees until now. If they had just given me a warning in advance I don't think I would complain very much about it.
I think.
Comment by Pythagore at 18:17, 17 May, 2004 #
"Things look good until you've seen something that looks better..."
Comment by Christoffer at 21:36, 17 May, 2004 #
Ain't that true, Christoffer!
Comment by David Collantes at 17:24, 18 May, 2004 #
Wow. Well said. And you too, allgood2. The passive-aggressive shit-storm surrounding this has me rethinking my writing blog. It's just disgusting.
Comment by beerzie boy at 23:53, 20 May, 2004 #
Yah, it's a great Blogging software, but you could also go and program your own with mySQL and PHP. I've done so, its not nearly as advanced as MT. But I've added themes, and worked pretty hard and this is my first real website. Its a real good learning experience, and once you get it all wrapped together, you really feel proud of yourself.
Comment by Chadian22 at 05:43, 10 Jun, 2004 #
The discussion has been closed on this entry. Thanks to everybody who participated.